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Regarding...@James_Hanley: thanks for your comment.<br /><br />Regarding your second paragraph, desirability of a criterion doesn't affect the validity of the proof, correct, but it does affect the practical relevance. And "a voting system is bad because it incorporates preference strengths" just doesn't seem all that important of a point.<br /><br />Re 3rd para, if a move is Pareto-efficient, then it's still Pareto-efficient with the requisite side-payment. So to get Say's result, you do indeed have to replace "rights" with "obligations".Silas Bartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09480427306873460464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1145198247762305957.post-10736702106805805572011-10-02T11:13:04.854-05:002011-10-02T11:13:04.854-05:00Sorry to come in almost a year late, but it looks ...Sorry to come in almost a year late, but it looks to me like you've actually drawn Condorcet's paradox, not Arrow's impossiblity theorem (although, of course, they're related). <br /><br />I think the argument that irrelevancy of alternatives is undesirable misses the point. Irrelevance of alternatives is an assumption of the model; it either holds or it doesn't, and "undesirability" doesn't really matter.<br /><br />Finally, I don't follow the logic of arguing that people will give up weak rights in order to achieve a Pareto efficient outcome. They will only do so if they personally gain from sacrificing the right. If their is not change in their own position, it will take a side payment to get them to surrender it, no?James Hanleyhttp://bawdyhouse.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1145198247762305957.post-34596614482643723162010-10-27T22:42:36.534-05:002010-10-27T22:42:36.534-05:00You might find the following article interesting:
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